FDA Requests Boxed Warnings on Older Class of Antipsychotic Drugs

[Brittany]

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration today exercised its new
authority under the Food and Drug Administration Amendments Act of
2007 (FDAAA) to require manufacturers of “conventional” antipsychotic
drugs to make safety-related changes to prescribing information, or
labeling, to warn about an increased risk of death associated with the
off-label use of these drugs to treat behavioral problems in older
people with dementia.

In 2005, the FDA announced similar labeling changes for “atypical”
antipsychotic drugs. At that time, Boxed Warnings, the FDA’s
strongest, were added. The Boxed Warning will now be added to an older
class of drugs known as “conventional” antipsychotics. The warning for
both classes of drugs will say that clinical studies indicate that
antipsychotic drugs of both types are associated with an increased
risk of death when used in elderly patients treated for dementia-
related psychosis.

For more go to http://badpsych.com/2008/06/18/fda-requests-boxed-warnings-on-older-class-of-antipsychotic-drugs/

[Alert]

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/i-just-butchered-my-family/2007/07/09/1183833402450.html
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/scientologists-flat-earthers/2007/07/10/1183833476294.html

www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/JeremyPerkins/
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-190410476060429284&q=+elli+perkins+&ei=kItISOqzJIPoqgPt76nADA&hl=en

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http://www.whyaretheydead.net/misc/Factnet/SCNPROPA.TXT

[Alert]

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http://www.whyaretheydead.net/misc/Factnet/SCNPROPA.TXT

[Kat]

What I want to know, Brittany, is how old you were and what state you
lived in when you claim to have been given antipsychotics forcefully,
and what diagnosis you have. Most states have laws against that,
unless you were classified by the courts as being unable to make a
decision regarding your own welfare due to age, being a danger to
yourself, or having a diminished mental capacity. Other factors can
contribute to bad reaction to those drugs (example, putting someone
with bipolar on antidepressants was done as standard treatment up till
a few years ago, when they realized it induced mania in some).

I will tell you flat out, you may have had a bad experience with that
class of drugs but not everyone has. If you are so angry at these
psychiatrists and drug manufacturers, take the fight to them. Make a
difference instead of trolling a scientology forum, where your posts
are just as off topic as the "increase your penis size!!" and "buy
discount shoes!!" spam that gets thrown up here. The ONLY reason to
post this stuff here is to either evoke sympathy from the
scientologist community, you ARE a scientologist, or you are just a
flagrant, blatant troll posting for the hell of it like certain other
people who will go unamed (or else they will appear, cause they read
EVERYTHING that goes up here.). Which are you?

[m***@yahoo.com]

Post by Kat
Which are you?

honestly I think we all know the answer to that question.

[Theta Works]

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:59:22 -0700 (PDT), ***@yahoo.com wrote:


What's astonishing here is that you would actually think that anyone
would be willing to be treated by psychs who by their own admission
can't cure anyone.

Http://www.cchr.org

It's even more astonishing that you think Scientologists are the only
ones who have recognized that psychs are frauds when it comes to
curing any mental illnesses.

Who's pulling your strings, puppet?

[Alert]

Post by Theta Works
What's astonishing here is that you would actually think that anyone
would be willing to be treated by psychs who by their own admission
can't cure anyone.

Heh, what *is* astonishing is, looking at your profile through Google
Groups.

http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=1hEmcBIAAACW8MwoGmSkbFhcfd7WRBMqpbyajUBv9M9XLUB2gqkZmQ

Youre a busy little clam *snort

I especially like your offerings in alt.marketplace.books, of the
*only* filmed interview with hubbard is available on DVD to buy.

The Shrinking World of L. Ron Hubbard
1968
http://www.xenutv.com/int/shrinkingworld.htm

How can "what is scientology" with LRH be the *only* filmed interview
with the old bastard, be the *only* filmed interview, when he is being
interviewed in 1968?

Oh, I forgot!

"Handling the truth is a touchy business"--LRH

Post by Theta Works
Http://w ww.cchr.org
It's even more astonishing that you think Scientologists are the only
ones who have recognized that psychs are frauds when it comes to
curing any mental illnesses.  

Meh. the fact is, that you are pimpimg hubbards crap all over the
Internet, and you dont even realize people can see you through your
clam shell.
Ron called what youre suffering from, 'pretended knowingness'

Post by Theta Works
Who's pulling your strings, puppet?

Well, it's certainly obvious who's pulling *yours*

http://www.xenu-directory.net/practices/brainwashing1.html

[Theta Works]

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:54:19 -0700 (PDT), Alert

Post by Alert

Post by Theta Works
What's astonishing here is that you would actually think that anyone
would be willing to be treated by psychs who by their own admission
can't cure anyone.

Heh, what *is* astonishing is, looking at your profile through Google
Groups.
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=1hEmcBIAAACW8MwoGmSkbFhcfd7WRBMqpbyajUBv9M9XLUB2gqkZmQ
I especially like your offerings in alt.marketplace.books, of the
*only* filmed interview with hubbard is available on DVD to buy.

That is nice of you to say :)

[Theta Works]

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:00:07 -0700 (PDT), Kat <***@comcast.net>
wrote:

What's astonishing here is that you would actually think that anyone
would be willing to be treated by psychs who by their own admission
can't cure anyone.

Http://www.cchr.org

[r***@gmail.com]

Post by Brittany
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration today exercised its new
authority under the Food and Drug Administration Amendments Act of
2007 (FDAAA) to require manufacturers of “conventional” antipsychotic
drugs to make safety-related changes to prescribing information, or
labeling, to warn about an increased risk of death associated with the
off-label use of these drugs to treat behavioral problems in older
people with dementia.
In 2005, the FDA announced similar labeling changes for “atypical”
antipsychotic drugs. At that time, Boxed Warnings, the FDA’s
strongest, were added. The Boxed Warning will now be added to an older
class of drugs known as “conventional” antipsychotics. The warning for
both classes of drugs will say that clinical studies indicate that
antipsychotic drugs of both types are associated with an increased
risk of death when used in elderly patients treated for dementia-
related psychosis.
For more go tohttp://badpsych.com/2008/06/18/fda-requests-boxed-warnings-on-older-c...

So, are you going to denounce Scientology Britt?

Huh? I held up my end.

BTW, Antipsychotic drugs are good, they save lives.

[Brittany]

Post by r***@gmail.com

Post by Brittany
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration today exercised its new
authority under the Food and Drug Administration Amendments Act of
2007 (FDAAA) to require manufacturers of “conventional” antipsychotic
drugs to make safety-related changes to prescribing information, or
labeling, to warn about an increased risk of death associated with the
off-label use of these drugs to treat behavioral problems in older
people with dementia.
In 2005, the FDA announced similar labeling changes for “atypical”
antipsychotic drugs. At that time, Boxed Warnings, the FDA’s
strongest, were added. The Boxed Warning will now be added to an older
class of drugs known as “conventional” antipsychotics. The warning for
both classes of drugs will say that clinical studies indicate that
antipsychotic drugs of both types are associated with an increased
risk of death when used in elderly patients treated for dementia-
related psychosis.
For more go tohttp://badpsych.com/2008/06/18/fda-requests-boxed-warnings-on-older-c...

So, are you going to denounce Scientology Britt?
Huh? I held up my end.
BTW, Antipsychotic drugs are good, they save lives.

You never had the experience of being a patient so therfour your
information is so misleading as always.

By the way you should checkout my "The Dangers of taking anti
psychotics" article at http://badpsych.com/2008/01/20/the-dangers-of-taking-antipsychotics/
See how safe they are now :)

Anti psychotics are disabling people from left to right... Learn your
facts first :)

[Alert]

Post by Brittany
By the way you should checkout my "The Dangers of taking anti
psychotics" article

have you checked out what can and has happened when adhering to
scientology lunacies?
See my above post

[r***@gmail.com]

So, you are not only a liar, you are a coward as well?

Did they teach you that in the cult Britt?

Your cowardice is showing.

If you truly are not a Scientologist, then publicly denounce the
church.

We are watching.

[WolfyRik]

Post by r***@gmail.com
So, you are not only a liar, you are a coward as well?
Did they teach you that in the cult Britt?
Your cowardice is showing.
If you truly are not a Scientologist, then publicly denounce the
church.
We are watching.

It's true 'Brittany', you still haven't told us why you're spamming a
scientology forum with anti-psychiatry posts. If you're not a
scientologist, why are you doing it?

You clam shills are so obvious *guffaw*

[Brittany]

Post by r***@gmail.com
So, you are not only a liar, you are a coward as well?
Did they teach you that in the cult Britt?
Your cowardice is showing.
If you truly are not a Scientologist, then publicly denounce the
church.
We are watching.

You're a broken record Redcoat. I only think for myself and for the
experience that I had in psychiatry as a patient.

Have I tried anti psychotics? hell yes! Have you tried them? no
because you mention on your previous post that you have no experience
as a patient in psychiatry. I was forcefully given these drugs and by
the time I got released from the hospital I was nervous wreak. I was
worst not better and unfortunately my health insurance was billed
(Fraudulent) for services that I didn't want and needed. I detox
myself from these dangerous drugs and feel so much better without
them.

You have the audacity to call me a coward? WHY don't you tell us all
your full name? Ooops! I think I hit a nerve with you, didn't I? You
chicken shit you.

If it makes you happy... ALL religions are one big cult... even
Christianity. I denounce all religion to be one big fraud that milks
people outta their money to believe in something that cant be proven
without a doubt.

I hope you can STFU about denouncing the church.

[WolfyRik]

Why are you spamming a scientology forum with Anti-psychiatry posts,
Brittany?

If you're not a scientologist, why are you doing it?

[r***@gmail.com]

Post by Brittany

Post by r***@gmail.com
So, you are not only a liar, you are a coward as well?
Did they teach you that in the cult Britt?
Your cowardice is showing.
If you truly are not a Scientologist, then publicly denounce the
church.
We are watching.

You're a broken record Redcoat. I only think for myself and for the
experience that I had in psychiatry as a patient.
Have I tried anti psychotics? hell yes! Have you tried them? no
because you mention on your previous post that you have no experience
as a patient in psychiatry. I was forcefully given these drugs and by
the time I got released from the hospital I was nervous wreak. I was
worst not better and unfortunately my health insurance was billed
(Fraudulent) for services that I didn't want and needed. I detox
myself from these dangerous drugs and feel so much better without
them.
You have the audacity to call me a coward? WHY don't you tell us all
your full name? Ooops! I think I hit a nerve with you, didn't I? You
chicken shit you.
If it makes you happy... ALL religions are one big cult... even
Christianity. I denounce all religion to be one big fraud that milks
people outta their money to believe in something that cant be proven
without a doubt.
I hope you can STFU about denouncing the church.

So, Britt, you don't have enough honor to answer a question? I
answered yours.

You just change the subject?

Coward.

You have a closed mind, you can't think anymore.

So, are you going to publicly denounce the cult? Or are you a coward?

[Theta Works]

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:51:01 -0700 (PDT), Brittany

Post by Brittany

Post by r***@gmail.com
So, you are not only a liar, you are a coward as well?
Did they teach you that in the cult Britt?
Your cowardice is showing.
If you truly are not a Scientologist, then publicly denounce the
church.
We are watching.

You're a broken record Redcoat. I only think for myself and for the
experience that I had in psychiatry as a patient.
Have I tried anti psychotics? hell yes! Have you tried them? no
because you mention on your previous post that you have no experience
as a patient in psychiatry. I was forcefully given these drugs and by
the time I got released from the hospital I was nervous wreak. I was
worst not better and unfortunately my health insurance was billed
(Fraudulent) for services that I didn't want and needed. I detox
myself from these dangerous drugs and feel so much better without
them.
You have the audacity to call me a coward? WHY don't you tell us all
your full name? Ooops! I think I hit a nerve with you, didn't I? You
chicken shit you.
If it makes you happy... ALL religions are one big cult... even
Christianity. I denounce all religion to be one big fraud that milks
people outta their money to believe in something that cant be proven
without a doubt.
I hope you can STFU about denouncing the church.

It's irrelevant whether you are a Scientologist or not. He's just
trying to further his own agenda here. He wouldn't know a crime if he
saw one since he's gotten so used to doing them that they seem like
everyday life to him. He's all for the Psychs trying to take over the
world with their enslaving drugs.

[Theta Works]

Post by r***@gmail.com
So, you are not only a liar, you are a coward as well?
Did they teach you that in the cult Britt?
Your cowardice is showing.
If you truly are not a Scientologist, then publicly denounce the
church.
We are watching.

Stalking is more like it. Did you see some of the recent arrests of
people at 4chan who were doing bomb threats for lulz?

You go right ahead and watch. Keep laughing

[IntergalacticExpandingPanda]

Post by Brittany
You never had the experience of being a patient so therfour your
information is so misleading as always.
By the way you should checkout my "The Dangers of taking anti
psychotics" article athttp://badpsych.com/2008/01/20/the-dangers-of-taking-antipsychotics/
See how safe they are now :)
Anti psychotics are disabling people from left to right... Learn your
facts first :)

Sigh...

The drugs with debilitating side effects are generally only used when
the person is otherwise disabled. You know, can't hold down a job, a
threat to them selves and others. That sort of thing. Granted
atypical antipsychotics are now being prescribed for other conditions
such as bipolar and panic/anxiety disorder, but the same rule
applies....if the side effect is worse than the chronic condition,
don't take the damn drugs. The only way they are going to force it on
you is if the alternative is DEATH, as in you killing your self or
someone else.

The goal of modern medicine is to cure disease, and ease suffering.
It's not a conspiracy to push drugs on people that will, for example,
make men lactate (side effect not listed on your page).

If a doctor gives you a script, you are not obligated to take the
pills. And if you have any concerns with the medication, bring it up
with your doctor. Seriously.

SSRIs and other anti-depressants are prescribed seemingly like candy
these days, however Anti psychotics ARE NOT.

[Kat]

The website itself, upon inspection, is laughable. "If he doesn't give
you a biological testing to see if you need this, don't take it."
While many mental illnesses are genetic and biochemical in nature,
there **IS NOT** a quick stick with a needle or bloodwork to prove
illness in most cases. It's not freaking diabetes or organ failure,
for cryin out loud. The medical complications listed should also list
which drugs CAUSE the associated problems. I also find it interesting
that the site itself doesn't include any information regarding the
individual diagnosis listed on the side... just more articles about
"drugs r bad, mkay?" Not one word about what the symptoms are or what
proper treatment SHOULD be, alternative or conventional. The
information about ECT is also just as sketchy. The "link of interest"
to a scientology group, CCHR, gave me a chuckle as well. Bipolar,
Major Depressive Disorder, Anxiety, Schizophrenia... the symptoms are
obvious and sometimes VERY strong, debilitating enough to interfere
with normal life and day to day function. For many, especially bipolar
patients, the "old line" treatment of lithium/depakote and a ssri did
little to ease the mania or depression. The better functioning anti-
psychotics such as zyprexa work by easing the suspected cause of the
illness... leakage of cell walls in the brain. Fish oil is another
known treatment, though with lesser effects. (Its effective enough
that pharmaceutical companies are manufacturing pharma grade fish oil,
without all the heavy trace metals that wind up in the fish that are
normally the source of the oil.) Main line treatment for these mental
illnesses are NOT anti-psychotic drugs. Its a fallback when the other
stuff just doesnt work. The patients with more severe symptoms are
often willing to take the risk of allergies or complications, because
the alternative of a non-functional life is unbearable. Personally?
I'd rather live with a few side effects than be so depressed that
suicide was my only option. I know alot of people who have been in
that situation, and they all were of the same opinion. I know alot of
people who are alive today, leading healthy happy lives that they
wouldnt have had without the
medication.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
On a side note, Brit, if not taking medication has worked for you hun,
then good for you. But that doesn't work for everyone.. ask Elli
Perkins.Oh, but wait, you cant.... Elli was stabbed to death in 2003
by her schizophrenic son that she was treating with auditing and
vitamins.  Maybe he could have benefitted from an anti-psychotic
medication.  Here's the youtubery from a CBS special report on her
tragic death. 

[Alert]

<snipped for brevity>
  Here's the youtubery from a CBS special report on her
tragic http://youtu.be/69qsEbSoTYo

Heres the whole report uninterrupted
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-190410476060429284&q=+elli+perkins+&ei=kItISOqzJIPoqgPt76nADA&hl=en


Here's history repeating itself last year
http://youtu.be/S4AwDLKb_YE

[Theta Works]

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:56:34 -0700 (PDT), Alert
<***@hotmail.com> wrote:

What's astonishing here is that you would actually think that anyone
would be willing to be treated by psychs who by their own admission
can't cure anyone.

How many Christians or Jews were murdered by family members? Which of
those were already on psych drugs?

How many kids from the school shootings were on psych drugs? Do you
know?

Answer: ALL of them.

Http://www.cchr.org

[Theta Works]

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:43:31 -0700 (PDT), Kat <***@comcast.net>
wrote:


What's astonishing here is that you would actually think that anyone
would be willing to be treated by psychs who by their own admission
can't cure anyone.

How many Christians or Catholics or Jews were killed by kids or others
who were on psych drugs? Do you know?

Http://www.cchr.org

[Android Cat]

Post by Theta Works
What's astonishing here is that you would actually think that anyone
would be willing to be treated by psychs who by their own admission
can't cure anyone.

Scientology makes people sign a contract agreeing that nothing said by any
executive, staff member, any front group, or even Hubbard himself, about
Scientology counts.

3. The writings of LRH are presented as a part of the record of his research
and should be construed only as a written report of such research and not as
a statement of claims by the Church or by LRH. None of the organizations
which espouse, present, propagate or practice the Scientology religion makes
any claim that the nature or purpose of Scientology, or of Dianetics, or the
writings of LRH, is contrary to this description or that the application of
this or any other Scientology practices will have any particular effect of
any particular person. Thus the Church makes no claims as to the results
which may be forthcoming from the Service. Scientology Policy Directive 13
March 1996, Statements by Staff Members, (which is available upon request)
makes it clear that claims about the religion by staff members are not
valid.

[Theta Works]

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:39:54 -0700 (PDT), IntergalacticExpandingPanda

Post by IntergalacticExpandingPanda

Post by Brittany
You never had the experience of being a patient so therfour your
information is so misleading as always.
By the way you should checkout my "The Dangers of taking anti
psychotics" article athttp://badpsych.com/2008/01/20/the-dangers-of-taking-antipsychotics/
See how safe they are now :)
Anti psychotics are disabling people from left to right... Learn your
facts first :)

Sigh...
The drugs with debilitating side effects are generally only used when
the person is otherwise disabled. You know, can't hold down a job, a
threat to them selves and others. That sort of thing. Granted
atypical antipsychotics are now being prescribed for other conditions
such as bipolar and panic/anxiety disorder, but the same rule
applies....if the side effect is worse than the chronic condition,
don't take the damn drugs. The only way they are going to force it on
you is if the alternative is DEATH, as in you killing your self or
someone else.
The goal of modern medicine is to cure disease, and ease suffering.
It's not a conspiracy to push drugs on people that will, for example,
make men lactate (side effect not listed on your page).
If a doctor gives you a script, you are not obligated to take the
pills. And if you have any concerns with the medication, bring it up
with your doctor. Seriously.
SSRIs and other anti-depressants are prescribed seemingly like candy
these days, however Anti psychotics ARE NOT.

You're kidding right? What mental illness such as bi-polar or panic/
anxiety disorder have been CURED by pills?